The Horse Fix
The Horse Fix
Thankful Hearts and Horse Tales
Well, hello everyone, and thanks for tuning back in to The Horse Fix, where you know you can get a horse fix, fix your horse at the same time, and maybe even help yourself along the way. I'm Dr. Sandra Holt, and I'm coming to you from my studio here in Longview, Texas. Guys, I'm so excited today. I just had lunch with some good friends of mine, just celebrating the week of thankfulness, and I'm so thankful for them. Anyway, I grabbed a couple of them and kind of made them hostage and pulled them into my studio so that they would help me with my podcast today. In a minute, I'm going to introduce them to you. And if we have time, I'll answer a question that came my way via email regarding horses. I do want to say thanks to all of you for listening. But I love you guys for listening all the way from Africa to Japan, Australia, Germany, and all over the United States. And I'm just so appreciative. So at any rate, let's get started. So, as I mentioned, I have a couple of friends with me. Now, one of my friends you've heard about before. That's my wife-in-law, Carolyn. Carolyn and I go way back when I married her ex-husband. So now we're wife-in-laws and we're great friends. I just really enjoy her, and I think you guys are going to enjoy her too. And then another friend that I met once I moved here to Longview, this lady has made it possible for me to really enjoy my new surroundings. She is a hoot, to say the least. She actually happens to be Miss Texas from several years ago. She's just as lovely now as she was back then, beauty-wise inside and out. And so I'm happy to share her with all of you as well. We will get to horses, but this particular show is all about being thankful, about friendship, about loving and the holidays and what they really are to us. So, Carolyn, how are you?
SPEAKER_02:I have never been better now that I'm here with you in your studio. Thank you for having your wife in law.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm glad you're here. And Gindy Kimro, how are you doing?
SPEAKER_03:I'm doing great. So glad to be with both of you. Good deal, good deal.
SPEAKER_00:I I almost captured one of our other friends, Jan Payne. Everyone calls her Champaign, but she had a further commitment. Also, DC Brookshire, which I was hoping could be here today, but she had another commitment as well. So you two are it. Appreciate you guys. Well, let's start. Carolyn, I want to start with you. Yes, ma'am. So speaking of horses, now, since you were married to Wayne, my husband now. Yes. You had to have been around horses a little bit back then. Yeah. You told me a story one time about Wayne kind of surprising you, and he was out on his horse. You were outside on a church pew or something.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. How did that go? Well, we were down at their family ranch, and there was a church pew sitting out in the yard, and me and a friend of his sitting in this church pew having a little drink, and all of a sudden around the house came a 17-hands-high horse and jumped the church pew between me and Billy Brown, his best friend, at which time his best friend said, Looks like we got a Sorovio on the end of it.
SPEAKER_00:So Wayne actually came around the corner and jumped over you and the church pew.
SPEAKER_02:Jumped over the pew between me and Billy sitting on the pew.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, how did well what'd you think? Oh, by the way, guys, if you hear a quacking, I think that's all that's Bindy's phone. That's Gandhi's phone. But I mean I I won't edit that out, but it is kind of cute ringtone there. Anyway, so what did you think when that happened?
SPEAKER_01:I thought, what the hell? What's going on with the horse that jumped over the king? Oh, he won't run the blue.
SPEAKER_02:Did he get high enough that he didn't get him? Well, of course, he had gone high enough. I mean, he was running 55 miles an hour. But yes, yes, for sure. But it was filming, and that's like also the time Billy bought a horse. And Billy had a new yellow Cadillac. And he was in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma City when he bought the horse. Well, then he didn't have his trouble with him, so he just took out the whole back end of that Cadillac and put that horse in the back of that Cadillac.
SPEAKER_00:Wait a minute, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_02:You mean he he disassembled the disassembled the car from the front seat all the way to the back and took out the part that separated the trunk from the back. Okay. And loaded that horse in and drove that horse back to Saint Oklahoma in that Cadillac, and it was a brand new Cadillac he had made about a month before.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, those were some of your husband's best friends.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Well, Gindy, you now you kind of grew up with horses, didn't you?
SPEAKER_03:No.
SPEAKER_00:No, okay.
SPEAKER_03:No, I'm scared of horses.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you are?
SPEAKER_03:Okay. You've been on a horse. Oh, yes. And my husband put me on one and he's a veterinarian, and uh he didn't tell me. You know, he said, just get on it and ride it. I said, okay. And I got on it and it took me to the water hole and threw me down into the water hole. Put his head down and away I went, soaking wet.
SPEAKER_00:And did they did you follow the rule that you're supposed to get right back on?
SPEAKER_03:No, I didn't want to. I was scared. And have you ever been on since? Uh yes, I have. I tried it again. Did you? Mm-hmm. He used to ride horses. He had one called uh O Red or Diamond, I believe. I can't remember. And uh he loved them. Yeah. But I need to have more private lessons next time.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm here now.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:But you have cows now, don't you? Oh yes. And a couple of donkeys. Oh yes, two donkey. Benny and Archie. Well, I would love to have a miniature donkey. Can I keep it at your place? Oh, yeah. I'm a I'm a judge. I'm a certified judge for donkeys and mules. Oh, and I I really love them, but I haven't had one, and I would love to have a miniature donkey. They're so cute.
SPEAKER_03:Well, they are, and if you feed them like Carolyn does, oh yeah. She's got them coming up to the fence and playing with her dog.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's one of them that wags his tail.
SPEAKER_00:He thinks he's a dog because he and my dog play chase. So you listeners might want to know this. Uh Carolyn and Gindy are neighbors. So Carolyn's backyard butts up against Gindy's backyard. And how did you come about getting those donkeys?
SPEAKER_03:You know, it was through Gerald Ferris. He's a contractor. Yeah. And he's good friends with my husband. And he said, I've got this client that's has three little small donkeys, miniature donkeys, and said, Come go with me, because Gerald told Kenny, said, I know you're looking for two donkeys because ours died. And Gerald took one, and the man, he was an old college, he said, Well, you've got to take both of them because they're buddies.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So we did. We took both of them. And then my little one of my little grandchildren, Ella, decided she wanted to name them Benny and Archie.
SPEAKER_00:Benny and Archie.
SPEAKER_03:That's what we did.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, cute. Very cute.
SPEAKER_02:They're really tame, though. They eat food right out of your hand.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah, I tell you what, they're adorable. I would love to own one. Like I said, I when I judge them, I want to take everyone home with me. They're just so cute.
SPEAKER_02:He or little Brady waiting on me to get the carrots to come out. And you know, the first time they came up was after midnight one night. And I had let the dogs out to go potty. Sadie was raising all manner of cane at the fence. Sadie's your dog. Yes, Sadie made us. And so I got the flashlight and it shined out there with there with the two donkeys. So I went ran in at midnight, got some carrots, ran back to the fence. Yeah. And that's what started the whole show. Now they come up every day. That's cool. In the afternoon. That's cool. Do they talk to you? Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, Carolyn, your story reminds me of one of that I have of my own when yeah at midnight your your something's out there. When I moved to Arizona, I got a job at a boarding school. I was the Aquine Science Professor and among other things, and I was also the director of the horse program. We lived in this little adobe house. It was, oh gosh, a hundred years or more old. The windows were very low in the Adobe House. I, of course, was in charge of the horses, but the horses in this very bad facility, and I had to talk to the headmaster about getting new fencing. But in but before he got the new fencing, they would get out all the time. Well, unbeknownst to me, one night, I'm home alone with my three-year-old daughter, and I hear something outside the window. And of course, we didn't have air conditioning, so we'd have the windows open. And I heard something, I heard some breathing and things like that going on. You can imagine. So I I was crawling on the floor because the windows were so low. I was crawling from room to room, and every room I go into, I'd hear it. And I'd go back into another room and I'd hear it again and I'd hear it again. And I thought, oh my gosh, what is going on out there? Scared the bejesus out of me. I called the heads master and told him what was going on. He said, I'll be right there. So he came come along with his flashlight. Well, it turned out the horses had gotten out and they were following me from room to room and breathing along and snorting and clip-clopping and everything. And I'm crawling on my belly thinking it's a person out there. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was pretty funny. So Thursday's Thanksgiving. And so, you know, that I know we're thankful every day. I know I am thankful just to wake up in the morning and and to put one foot in front of the other. But you know, I'm I'm most thankful this year for my family and for my friends. I think I don't know about you listeners out there or about you two here, but as we get older, as we get wiser, the important part of our life is what we are making our memories of and the people in our lives. I'm so thankful for my family, my daughter, my brothers, my husband, my grandkids, and my friends. And like I said before, when I first moved here a couple of years ago, I knew nobody except for Carolyn. And Carolyn was gracious enough to allow me in her inner circle of long view friends, and I'm so thankful for that. And it's just been such a blessing. And I'm thankful for my horse show friends. The horse people have been so supportive of my passion, and of course I am of theirs as well. I had to, you know, sell my horse, you all know that. Willow. But I'm about to get a new horse, I hope. If he passes the bet check. And if he doesn't, I'll go on a search for another. But I'm thankful for that that the Lord has given me an opportunity to pursue my passion, and has given me given me what I can do with my hands and my eyes, and I get to paint and I get to write and get to tell stories and make up songs and all those kind of things. Carolyn, what are you feeling thankful about this week, particularly?
SPEAKER_02:I am thankful first and foremost for Christ that was given on the cross to save me a sinner. I am extremely thankful for my family and my friends, but to reflect on what you just brought up, as far as bringing you into our family group of friends, Sandy, the honor is ours. Oh my god. I have never, nor have my friends ever known anyone as gracious and as thoughtful and as kind and talented and talented.
SPEAKER_00:Oh gosh, guys, as you are.
SPEAKER_02:I have told my friends here for 15 years, when you guys meet this lady, you're gonna think, oh, yeah, sure. Well, now that you had long view, it's like, girl, we can't believe all this. This woman is fantastic, and you are, and we're very blessed to have you in our lives, and I thank the Lord every day for you, not only as my friend, but as my wife-in-law, and not to mention the help that you gave me as a single parent rearing my daughter Katie because you came into Katie's life at a time when she was 14 years old, that as a single parent, it was hard for me making ends meet. And she's now what 35. And, you know, there were things that Katie needed, like a laptop computer, that on a working salary, I couldn't afford that. And it was Sandy that took care of those things because you knew that her mother wanted it for her more than anything in the world, but that her mother could not afford that. And I will always be appreciative from the bottom of my heart for your kindness and your love, and that certainly doesn't include all the things that you have arranged for since I moved to Lawnview. And while we're on the subject of my move, I'd like to acknowledge Kenny and Gendy for their total efforts and arranging it so that I was able to come here.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So without the depth of my friends and their love and commitment, I wouldn't be where I am right now. Well, Carolyn, you make it easy.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, you make it easy. And I mean, it's it doesn't come by accident or or by force that people are good to you because of who you are. Yeah. So and Gindy can attest to that, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Gindy and Kenny made this house that Carolyn moved into a little jewel. And I mean, yeah, that was really awesome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I am so blessed. I am so blessed. Um, and I know that only a child of God receives these kind of blessings. And I know that I'm blessed that he has put these people in my life and has placed it on their heart to be kind and extra kind to someone. Well, because y'all have been.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and you know, and speaking of of daughters, I I know how you feel. I mean, of course, Katie is you you gotta know Katie to to note this, but she's uh she's a beautiful creature inside and out. I mean, absolutely stunningly beautiful, but her insides are even more precious. But you know, I have my own daughter, and you know, when people do for your daughters or your sons, yeah, um, there's nothing like it. Yeah, and you know, that's that's as mothers, that's who we are and what we live for. That's right. And Gindy, you have your own set of children.
SPEAKER_03:I do. I have nine. I have eight. I have not well, I'm sorry, let me correct that. I have three girls and nine grandbabies. I have eight here on earth and then one that's in heaven. He was two years old when he died, and uh being blessed with friends, there's no words that someone can tell when you lose a child or a grandchild, how it hurts. Yeah. But you've got your friends, and you know, if you feel like crying, they say, go ahead, cry on, you know. It's okay, it's all right. And I can't imagine.
SPEAKER_00:And how did he pass?
SPEAKER_03:They still don't know to this day. And he was fine. His daddy took him to school that morning, and Tripp would always throw you a kiss and love you. You know, he had the prettiest blue eyes. And happy baby, happy. And he would so he threw his daddy a kiss and waved to him and went and was in chapel and was dancing back and forth because he loved music. Probably got that from me.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, it's it's hard, you know, and and I really admire you for still having faith. Oh. Because it's hard when you're asking God why. You know, why the this little boy had he was he had a lifetime ahead of him. Why would you take him? And the only answer I ever heard that made sense to me and that helped me to reconcile with some of these things is that he are he served his purpose here on earth. Whatever it was that he was supposed to do here on earth, he he accomplished it, he did it, and then God called him home. I mean, that that's the only answer I can ever come up with.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you know, there's just not really any good answer. Uh and yes, I was upset, and yes, I was even mad at God, but that's okay. Yeah, you know, because God knows when you go through things like that. Yes. Because that's why he died on the cross for us all. Right. Because we're all sinners.
SPEAKER_00:But you know Carolyn, you guys listeners, yeah. Carolyn just made a a gesture pointing to her chest, like, moi, me, a sinner.
SPEAKER_03:But you know, it it it's it I know I can't answer for anyone else, but I know that if I didn't have faith in God, I would have never made it. I don't know how people get through life that don't believe in God.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Well, but that's their that's their battle to decide what they want to do.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And but I know we wouldn't have made it through, the whole family wouldn't have. And we all stayed together, and uh my uh and my faith is strong. I'm not perfect now, don't get me wrong, but my faith is strong, and I knew that Trent was put here on earth for a reason, yeah, and I knew that when God took him, it was for a reason. I may never know that reason. Right. But and that's okay. Yeah. But you know, it's uh it's made me, even as a Christian, to appreciate life itself, yeah, and appreciate my friends and appreciate just the surroundings around us, because you never know when something's gonna happen like that. You you can say, you have all the money in the world, you can say, Oh, that's never gonna happen to me. Well, let me tell you. It does. It does, it does, and it'll bring you down to your knees quick.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But if you've got faith and you've got friends, you can you will make through it. You you'll you'll get yourself through it. And I always think, you know, I can empathize with uh Jesus' mother, Mary, when she saw him crucified on the cross.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I've never thought of that. Never thought of her and how she felt. Oh wow, that's it.
SPEAKER_03:And I always and I think, you know, here she had to give up her son and watch him be tortured. Yeah. Just horrible. Yeah. While he died on the cross for us sinners. That's what I used to get through a lot of this. Yeah. You know, because it made me know that, you know, Jesus is with me. And Jesus is right on time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He's never late. He may not be there and do the things you want him to do. And you may question and say, why did you take my little grandson? Because I could think of several that should have been gone before him. Yeah. But you know, that's not my place. And, you know, I'm just very, very thankful. It it it's hard, uh, but you know, you know, anyway, Michael What?
SPEAKER_00:And you know, we've we've all everyone out there has lost someone that's meant something to them, whether it be a parent or a brother, a sister, or a child. I I still I have to believe that the hardest part would be losing a child above, you know, because it's against the law of order, you know, and and we're really kind of getting on a kind of a downer here. So let's let's move along. And and I and I'm I'm gonna say that well, I don't know what to say. Carolyn, you're good when I have a loss for words.
SPEAKER_02:Uh well, you know, appreciate some of the the bumps that come along, and those kinds of bumps you just learned to kind of roll with. Yeah. Because you my statement is say you broke a hundred and ninety dollar water for a piece of crystal. Nobody died. Right. I mean, pick it up, throw in the trash, and go on. Get over it.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:That those unfortunately, I think those types of things help us get our perspectives in order. True.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, and here comes Christmas, and we all get wrapped up in, oh, what can I get so and so? And I got it this last year, I gotta do at least as good as that. And and I gave this to that person, so I need to give this to that person, and you get all wrapped up in buying the presents for the people, yeah, and then you hit home and say, wait, put on the brakes. What is the season really about? You know, what is the reason for the season? And I think again, and I don't mean to dwell on our age, air quotes, but I'm thankful that I'm as wise as I am now because I would have loved to have had this same perspective and same feeling 20, 30 years ago. True, you know, and I think I'd have been a lot happier and less stressed and all of the above.
SPEAKER_02:Well, my thinking nowadays at 76 years old is Hey, you're older than me. Older than me.
SPEAKER_03:You're 75. I'm baby, I'm 73. You are.
SPEAKER_02:But you know, my thinking about that is as you get older, you begin to realize some of this stuff really isn't worth it. No, and if it causes drama in your life, yeah, I have this great term, it's called delete. And I will delete you if you cause drama in my life, because at this age we've all paid our dues with drama, and we don't need that. Right. And you have to finally decide in your life, am I gonna put up with this or am I gonna get rid of it?
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Well, my theory is you're out of here.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and you know, so if you surround yourself with positive people and with I I call them winners. Positive people are winners. Right. Iron sharpens iron. And so when you're around someone that you can sharpen and they can sharpen you, that's what it's about. There's seasons in life, I think, too. That is so true.
SPEAKER_03:I think there's seasons in life, just like when this all happened to Kenny and I, we both kind of were standoffish and didn't go as many places, and I didn't get out as much. He did because he worked at the clinic. And that's when Carolyn came into my life. And you know, I'm thankful for her because she got me out going again. She can do that. And she did. And then I met you and everyone else and people that, yeah. And so I think it's seasons.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and I reminded my husband, Wayne, about that not too long ago. He was saying, you know, we're not we're not the people we used to be. We're not out going and blowing and doing, you know, we're sitting at home watching television. I said, that's okay. It is. It's we're in that season now. Yes. We're in that intimate season where we can connect with each other without forcing it, without having we can just be in the same room together. That's enough. Exactly. You don't have to do that.
SPEAKER_03:And if you don't have, but if you can, if you can truly count five people on your hand that are true friends, you have a lot of acquaintances. Yes. But if you I you know, you may have more than five people, but if you can count five people on your hand that is a true friend, you're very fortunate.
SPEAKER_00:And and loyal, and ones that you never ever have to worry about. Oh, right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that will do anything for you at any time without question asked. Right. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_02:Because, you know, call, okay, I need less than such. Okay, I'll take care of it. Yeah. Be there in just a minute.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Well, Carolyn, Carolyn, she she packs a pistol. You well, she forgot to take it out of her purse. She's gets goes to board the airplane.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no.
SPEAKER_00:The next thing we know, Katie, our daughter, is calling her daddy and saying, Mama's in airport jail.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Candy would have died.
SPEAKER_00:Have you ever shot a gun? I have. I've when I took lessons. You didn't. What did you recommend? Lessons. I see. I'm scared of guns.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I still don't have a little one. When I was taking the course and my husband took it with me. Um, I just got my nails done and didn't want to listen. I'm just blind them on it. And so and I couldn't blend them in. And so the instructor said, just a minute, please. And we'll do it, you know, like you do when when he's says load and then aim and shoot. And so he would load my gun for me and then he'd say aim and shoot. So how were you? Did you shoot the oh yeah I did pretty good. I think I made uh 260 on it or something. They said that was pretty good the first time. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:Wayne Wayne had me shoot his gun once and I I I have a video of it. It's a comedy routine.
SPEAKER_02:I would like to say something along the gun business. Sandy has decorated my house for Christmas. So I keep a little derringer that's a small gun. So I just stick it in the potpourri crystal bowl down by the front door. And I just push some pine cones over it because who's going to be expecting you to just reach over the potpourri and pull out a derringer. Well about three days ago Sandy has decided what she wants to use that for something else as a decor decoration in the kitchen. Well I look around and Sandy has emptied that and she has got that gun and laid it over on another piece of furniture.
SPEAKER_00:Now you have to visualize this guys I've I've got it with between my forefinger my index finger and my thumb and I'm carefully picking it up and laying it down where it won't it won't accidentally shoot someone as they walk in the room. Oh scared to death.
SPEAKER_02:And then so then she goes and puts it somewhere else well lo and behold I go to use that piece and then there's the gun again oh my Lord I said do you feel like you've moved this gun all about she said yes and I just as soon found a snake.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah for sure well this has been great fun ladies do you have anything else you want to say before I close it well thank you for the honor of having us for this podcast.
SPEAKER_03:We have enjoyed it tremendously I have one thing I've got to tell you I met my husband and oh this is good and so I was like 23 I think 24 I think and I thought I was going to be an old maid.
SPEAKER_00:Now how many how many years have you been married?
SPEAKER_03:52. Wow this Christmas so I had to take my little poodle in to see old Dr. Zimicki and I was living in Henderson at the time and so I had to come over here to Longview. So I did Dr. Pete was looking at my little his name was Fifth and he was looking at Fifth and he was a little toy poodle and he said well what's wrong I said well he's just had so many solar froats and I we just can't seem to get him well and he had that old cigar you know remind me of old what Groucho Groucho works. Yes had that cigar over there and he kind of laughed and so he said uh hollered for Kenny my husband said come up here and hold this dog. Now you haven't met Kenny yet no never met him so I guess it was kind of like love at first sight. And he and I would have never thought I was going to marry veterinarian. Yeah and because you know I'm just not I don't do a lot of cows and horses but I have learned since we've been married. Yeah and but anyway and I thought now how am I going to get back to see this guy here? He's so good looking I said you know I blackheaded blue eyed yeah and I said how am I going to get back to see him I now my husband would die but if I told tell you this but I thought he was a water boy I did I need to edit this out in case he listens we told it many times and he said I'm not a water boy I'm a panel boy you know and he had just been accepted into vet school which I didn't know yeah and my mother said well he she called him a water boy said well he may be a water boy you don't even know anything about him I said I don't but understand that he's cute I've got to think of some reason to have to come back here and sleep him and so anyway I looked it up at old Dr. P and I said well Dr. P he's had so many sore throats why don't you just can you pull his tonsils out I said can he have a tonsil at me and I am telling the doctor what to do but I was thinking what can I do to get back over here poor dog's expensive he said well yeah we can do it I said well why don't we just do it then and he said okay he said we'll do it and you pick him up tomorrow and my mother had always taught me wait till man's heart is do the stomach yeah so I went home and made a pound cake and then today we went to pick up Fift I came in and gave him the pound cake and two good things came out of that he asked me to go for a date July the 4th out at Lake Cherokee and we did and my dog Fifth never was sick again and he died. That's a great story.
SPEAKER_00:And we've been married 52 years decent you got to be thankful for that for sure yeah oh yeah yeah well guys there you have it this is my life in Lawnview with these so you can imagine how much fun I have living here and being amongst these wonderful people I want to wish you all a very very happy Thanksgiving remember to be thankful for the little things as well as the big things and until next time may all your blues be ribbons.
SPEAKER_02:Bye bye Thanksgiving